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Redditch Council passes shared single management team proposals
2:56pm Wednesday 18th November 2009
REDDITCH Council has passed proposals for a shared single management team with Bromsgrove District Council.
Full council voted through the recommendations of the shared services board at an extraordinary meeting on Monday.
The council ratified changes made as a result of consultation, having agreed to sharing a management team back in July.
The new single management team should be in place early in 2010.
Because sensitive information relating to individuals was being discussed as part of these proposals, the public could not be present at the meeting.
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Filo, REDDITCH says...
11:45pm Wed 18 Nov 09
More worryingly Brown and Smith have sold our British Sovereignty down the river to the EU behind closed doors, with the lie and U-turn on the election promise of a referendum. Now wait for the taxes and the corruption from a group that has yet to have any annual accounts signed off.
Locally, Cllr Cookson (Labour) also voted to support recommendation 2 of the shared board, so not all Labour Cllrs disgaree with the format as Cllr Robin King would have us believe.
As for the rest of his "Roboganda" - what on earth is he on? So here's some back;
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:50pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"What I said, as always, was the truth, like it or like it not".
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:29pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"Jacqui has faced up to the judgement given out to all MP’s involved and has paid back the £1500 asked for by the panel led by Sir Thomas Legg"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:40pm Sat 7 Nov 09
"Jacqui has paid back all that the investigasting panel said she had to. The amount £15000".
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I'd rather wait and hear from the people in the know, than from an a bitter Cllr who can't get his facts straight! You just can't trust anything Cllr Robin King says. Worse still - he writes he "fundamentally disagrees" with the Fair Funding Campaign (f40) for Redditch Schools and pupils !!
(P.S. - it was only £1500 Smith repaid).
Locally, Cllr Cookson (Labour) also voted to support recommendation 2 of the shared board, so not all Labour Cllrs disgaree with the format as Cllr Robin King would have us believe.
As for the rest of his "Roboganda" - what on earth is he on? So here's some back;
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:50pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"What I said, as always, was the truth, like it or like it not".
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:29pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"Jacqui has faced up to the judgement given out to all MP’s involved and has paid back the £1500 asked for by the panel led by Sir Thomas Legg"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:40pm Sat 7 Nov 09
"Jacqui has paid back all that the investigasting panel said she had to. The amount £15000".
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I'd rather wait and hear from the people in the know, than from an a bitter Cllr who can't get his facts straight! You just can't trust anything Cllr Robin King says. Worse still - he writes he "fundamentally disagrees" with the Fair Funding Campaign (f40) for Redditch Schools and pupils !!
(P.S. - it was only £1500 Smith repaid).
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:33am Thu 19 Nov 09
Hello Tory Party Filo
Positive proof here that you are a Tory Pary Official. Else the arguement would be imtelligent and relevant to the story.
You obviously agree with the Tory session behind closed doors though only a tory councillor would know what went on. I will comment know more on this. It is obvious to decent people what you lot are all about.
I'll leave you with the following.....
Yes, as seems to be the norm, the future sovereignty of Redditch was decided behind closed doors.
I cannot reveal the content of this session as it was confidential but the case put by deputy leader Mike Braley in the absence of the his Conservative Council leader was full of apologies and on three occasions words similar to “may not be the ideal package” were present in his fumbling and error riddled statements.
I warn Redditch that once the true facts are known the "mud" will hit the fan.
Honesty to go public with this has never figured in the Tory strategy, because the whole episode is not about savings, not about improved services but about keeping themselves in power. Such is the deceit of the Tory Party, riddled with phoney stunts and media led photo shoots.
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Remember Remembrance Day and the heart-jerking photo of Cameron kneeling at a grave of a war veteran? Here is the disgusting truth behind that picture that papers like the Daily Mail hailed as caring Cameron.
Furious veterans slammed David Cameron yesterday for his “shameful” photo shoot at the Garden of Remembrance.
They were joined in their horror by Franklyn Hood, chairman of the National Service Veteran’s Association who stormed: “He has used this sacred ground like a cheap film set.”
Mr Hood, 73, said the Tory leader’s picture session at the Westminster Abbey memorial on Wednesday was “a calculating stunt and deeply shameful”. He added: “His actions were totally disrespectful to the memory of those who died.”
Once this story appeared in the Mirror the Scottish voters gave their verdict and showed the Tories the door in Glasgow; a terrific victory for Gordon and Labour.
The local electors will also show the Tories the door in Redditch once they are fully aware what is going on behind closed doors.
Watch this space for the future news about the TORY TAX on your waste collection.
God Save Redditch From the Tories (including filo)
Positive proof here that you are a Tory Pary Official. Else the arguement would be imtelligent and relevant to the story.
You obviously agree with the Tory session behind closed doors though only a tory councillor would know what went on. I will comment know more on this. It is obvious to decent people what you lot are all about.
I'll leave you with the following.....
Yes, as seems to be the norm, the future sovereignty of Redditch was decided behind closed doors.
I cannot reveal the content of this session as it was confidential but the case put by deputy leader Mike Braley in the absence of the his Conservative Council leader was full of apologies and on three occasions words similar to “may not be the ideal package” were present in his fumbling and error riddled statements.
I warn Redditch that once the true facts are known the "mud" will hit the fan.
Honesty to go public with this has never figured in the Tory strategy, because the whole episode is not about savings, not about improved services but about keeping themselves in power. Such is the deceit of the Tory Party, riddled with phoney stunts and media led photo shoots.
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Remember Remembrance Day and the heart-jerking photo of Cameron kneeling at a grave of a war veteran? Here is the disgusting truth behind that picture that papers like the Daily Mail hailed as caring Cameron.
Furious veterans slammed David Cameron yesterday for his “shameful” photo shoot at the Garden of Remembrance.
They were joined in their horror by Franklyn Hood, chairman of the National Service Veteran’s Association who stormed: “He has used this sacred ground like a cheap film set.”
Mr Hood, 73, said the Tory leader’s picture session at the Westminster Abbey memorial on Wednesday was “a calculating stunt and deeply shameful”. He added: “His actions were totally disrespectful to the memory of those who died.”
Once this story appeared in the Mirror the Scottish voters gave their verdict and showed the Tories the door in Glasgow; a terrific victory for Gordon and Labour.
The local electors will also show the Tories the door in Redditch once they are fully aware what is going on behind closed doors.
Watch this space for the future news about the TORY TAX on your waste collection.
God Save Redditch From the Tories (including filo)
Filo, REDDITCH says...
9:37am Thu 19 Nov 09
Hi Labour Croney Cllr King, who writes letters of support to himself under 3-4 different names, who is against Councils trying to improve services, who is against Councils trying to save us Council Tax and save money, who is against fair funding for Worcestershire schools, and supports our our British Sovereignty being given away (behind closed doors of course) to the corrupt machine called the EU, and dictates to us our MP did nothing wrong on her expenses, it was someone elses fault.
The hypocrisy in mentioning Rememberance Day and saying that is "relevant to the story". I wonder if those that gave their lives for independence, were to come back and see what Britain has given away behind closed doors, possibly against the wishes of the nation by 1 man, would think that the ultimate sacrifice was worth it.
If he leaves it there, or as King says "comment know more", (durrrrrrrr) - that will be a first. In the meantime, "proof positive" if you disagree with a Labour Phoney Crony, as King says - that makes you the Tory Party! (I'll take that as the compliment it was intended). LOL
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with" (referring to an invite from the F40 campaign to attend their meeting).
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:50pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"What I said, as always, was the truth, like it or like it not".
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:29pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"Jacqui has faced up to the judgement given out to all MP’s involved and has paid back the £1500 asked for by the panel led by Sir Thomas Legg"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:40pm Sat 7 Nov 09
"Jacqui has paid back all that the investigasting panel said she had to. The amount £15000".
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I'd rather wait and hear from the people in the know, than from an a bitter Cllr who can't get his facts straight! You just can't trust anything Cllr Robin King says. Worse still - he writes he "fundamentally disagrees" and is against the Fair Funding Campaign (f40) for Redditch Schools and pupils !!
(P.S. - it was only £1500 Smith repaid).
The hypocrisy in mentioning Rememberance Day and saying that is "relevant to the story". I wonder if those that gave their lives for independence, were to come back and see what Britain has given away behind closed doors, possibly against the wishes of the nation by 1 man, would think that the ultimate sacrifice was worth it.
If he leaves it there, or as King says "comment know more", (durrrrrrrr) - that will be a first. In the meantime, "proof positive" if you disagree with a Labour Phoney Crony, as King says - that makes you the Tory Party! (I'll take that as the compliment it was intended). LOL
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with" (referring to an invite from the F40 campaign to attend their meeting).
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:50pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"What I said, as always, was the truth, like it or like it not".
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:29pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"Jacqui has faced up to the judgement given out to all MP’s involved and has paid back the £1500 asked for by the panel led by Sir Thomas Legg"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:40pm Sat 7 Nov 09
"Jacqui has paid back all that the investigasting panel said she had to. The amount £15000".
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I'd rather wait and hear from the people in the know, than from an a bitter Cllr who can't get his facts straight! You just can't trust anything Cllr Robin King says. Worse still - he writes he "fundamentally disagrees" and is against the Fair Funding Campaign (f40) for Redditch Schools and pupils !!
(P.S. - it was only £1500 Smith repaid).
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
2:36pm Thu 19 Nov 09
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TORIES SPLIT ON WASTE COLLECTION STEALTH TAX
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At last nights council Executive, in the absence of the Tory brains (Councillor Macmillan was absent) and without the leader Carol Gandy being present, the Tory proposal to roll out a pilot scheme to charge for the collection of green waste and to ban green waste fron grey bins went rolling off into the night, they lost the vote in disarray; they also lost another by their own party proposing opposite amendments to each other.
More later about these goons in local government later.
God Help us ALL
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TORIES SPLIT ON WASTE COLLECTION STEALTH TAX
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At last nights council Executive, in the absence of the Tory brains (Councillor Macmillan was absent) and without the leader Carol Gandy being present, the Tory proposal to roll out a pilot scheme to charge for the collection of green waste and to ban green waste fron grey bins went rolling off into the night, they lost the vote in disarray; they also lost another by their own party proposing opposite amendments to each other.
More later about these goons in local government later.
God Help us ALL
Filo, REDDITCH says...
5:11pm Thu 19 Nov 09
STOP PRESS . . . . . STOP PRESS
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Labour buffoon looks a charlie . . . again!
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REDDITCH COUNCIL SCOOPS PRESTIGOUS AWARD
11:07am Thursday 19th November 2009
REDDITCH Council has scooped a prestigious national procurement award.
The council has been awarded the Society of Procurement Officers in Local Government (SOPO) Award for Outstanding Achievement in Procurement 2009. It gained the award for a collaborative insurance project undertaken with Improvement and Efficiency West Midlands, Bromsgrove, . . . .
This is what we want to hear, great stuff - this is what it's all about - making savings and keeping Council Tax Down.
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Collection of GREEN waste (not all waste) - sounds a good idea - people won't have to trudge down to the dump and sit in a queue for ages like they do at present (unless they choose to) - that's what it's about - choice! And it sounds like it's being argued out properly first, like a proper democratically elected council - not by 1 group alone as King wants. (Strange he didn't know that at 8.30am this morning when he wrote if the meeting was last night . . . perhaps he was asleep)!
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LABOUR IN SPLIT AND IN DISARAY
Jacqui Smith wants fair funding for Redditch School Children (now she has nothing to do with it). Cllr Robin King is against it.
READ ALL ABOUT IT! LOL
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Labour buffoon looks a charlie . . . again!
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REDDITCH COUNCIL SCOOPS PRESTIGOUS AWARD
11:07am Thursday 19th November 2009
REDDITCH Council has scooped a prestigious national procurement award.
The council has been awarded the Society of Procurement Officers in Local Government (SOPO) Award for Outstanding Achievement in Procurement 2009. It gained the award for a collaborative insurance project undertaken with Improvement and Efficiency West Midlands, Bromsgrove, . . . .
This is what we want to hear, great stuff - this is what it's all about - making savings and keeping Council Tax Down.
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Collection of GREEN waste (not all waste) - sounds a good idea - people won't have to trudge down to the dump and sit in a queue for ages like they do at present (unless they choose to) - that's what it's about - choice! And it sounds like it's being argued out properly first, like a proper democratically elected council - not by 1 group alone as King wants. (Strange he didn't know that at 8.30am this morning when he wrote if the meeting was last night . . . perhaps he was asleep)!
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LABOUR IN SPLIT AND IN DISARAY
Jacqui Smith wants fair funding for Redditch School Children (now she has nothing to do with it). Cllr Robin King is against it.
READ ALL ABOUT IT! LOL
G.Hill, Redditch says...
6:25pm Thu 19 Nov 09
It seems certain Councillors just cannot display maturity and trust in such a position. Why this childish individual still chooses to run around with fragmented information like a little school girl (when all the other Councillors remain professional) is a clear indication of the poor level of candidates we have available in certain wards. I am surprised other Councillors do not educate the individual with a general code of conduct.
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
6:28pm Thu 19 Nov 09
You are a real phoney filo.
You started off with earlier offerings some time ago pretending you were an ordinary person who used to vote Labour, now we know you are a true blue phoney like Cameron, who uses the war dead as a political weapon. Are you sure you’re not Cameron, you sound as low and as cheap as he is.
The Green waste is an issue you would know nothing about unless you were a Tory Councillor, one of whom says global warming is a myth.
Like Councillor's Macmillan and Gandy I was not at the executive last them, but unlike them I am not on that committee. I found out this morning from colleagues who are on Executive.
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Now, so you understand, I am typing in plain English.
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You said,
"Collection of GREEN waste (not all waste) - sounds a good idea - people won't have to trudge down to the dump and sit in a queue for ages like they do at present (unless they choose to) - that's what it's about - choice!
And it sounds like it’s being argued out properly first, like a proper democratically elected council - not by 1 group alone as King wants."
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Not a choice Filo, you are allowed to put green waste in your grey bin now - free. If the pilot works and the Tories actually finally get their act together and whip it through full council. You will pay £30 if you want to use your green bin plus an extra £15 for the bin. So those of use with small gardens (most of the town) will be forced to pay for a service we now get free. Green waste in grey bins will be BANNED.
It will not reduce the carbon footprint but increase it as it will be collected in wagons that do 2.5 to 5 miles to a gallon of DIESEL.
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What a great thing eh filo?
I bet you live in a massive big house by the way you tall, and are pleased us on the Estates of Redditch will subsidise your green waste from your acres of land.
Deny this at will, we do not know who you are, other than that you make things up, lie and insult so what ever you say carries no real credibility as you could be anyone, though definitely having the Tory credentials. You may not even be from Redditch at all
About the procurement, yes a great job done by our Alex from Bromsgrove, brought to Redditch to do the job by the last Labour regime. He is doing fine in spite of the blundering Tories.
Finally, as I will not bother to carry on this conversation with someone with no credentials, democracy is giving people a choice, like you said about Europe (though the Tories are not promising a referendum anymore).
At least we do things openly, not behind closed doors and I have the decency to use my own name openly and honestly and am not a coward who runs scared behind false name and calls names knowing that I cannot confront you face to face.
See you.
God save Redditch from the Tories
You started off with earlier offerings some time ago pretending you were an ordinary person who used to vote Labour, now we know you are a true blue phoney like Cameron, who uses the war dead as a political weapon. Are you sure you’re not Cameron, you sound as low and as cheap as he is.
The Green waste is an issue you would know nothing about unless you were a Tory Councillor, one of whom says global warming is a myth.
Like Councillor's Macmillan and Gandy I was not at the executive last them, but unlike them I am not on that committee. I found out this morning from colleagues who are on Executive.
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Now, so you understand, I am typing in plain English.
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You said,
"Collection of GREEN waste (not all waste) - sounds a good idea - people won't have to trudge down to the dump and sit in a queue for ages like they do at present (unless they choose to) - that's what it's about - choice!
And it sounds like it’s being argued out properly first, like a proper democratically elected council - not by 1 group alone as King wants."
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Not a choice Filo, you are allowed to put green waste in your grey bin now - free. If the pilot works and the Tories actually finally get their act together and whip it through full council. You will pay £30 if you want to use your green bin plus an extra £15 for the bin. So those of use with small gardens (most of the town) will be forced to pay for a service we now get free. Green waste in grey bins will be BANNED.
It will not reduce the carbon footprint but increase it as it will be collected in wagons that do 2.5 to 5 miles to a gallon of DIESEL.
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What a great thing eh filo?
I bet you live in a massive big house by the way you tall, and are pleased us on the Estates of Redditch will subsidise your green waste from your acres of land.
Deny this at will, we do not know who you are, other than that you make things up, lie and insult so what ever you say carries no real credibility as you could be anyone, though definitely having the Tory credentials. You may not even be from Redditch at all
About the procurement, yes a great job done by our Alex from Bromsgrove, brought to Redditch to do the job by the last Labour regime. He is doing fine in spite of the blundering Tories.
Finally, as I will not bother to carry on this conversation with someone with no credentials, democracy is giving people a choice, like you said about Europe (though the Tories are not promising a referendum anymore).
At least we do things openly, not behind closed doors and I have the decency to use my own name openly and honestly and am not a coward who runs scared behind false name and calls names knowing that I cannot confront you face to face.
See you.
God save Redditch from the Tories
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
6:33pm Thu 19 Nov 09
I thought G Hill desrved a seperate answer.
G Hill, the facts are the facts and i will not be fooled into keeping quite by attempts from others who seek to attack without any mandate.
Why should I let ineffective and poor management go by without attacking it a forcefully as I can
Goodnight
G Hill, the facts are the facts and i will not be fooled into keeping quite by attempts from others who seek to attack without any mandate.
Why should I let ineffective and poor management go by without attacking it a forcefully as I can
Goodnight
Filo, REDDITCH says...
10:22pm Thu 19 Nov 09
Nicely summed up Mrs G Hill.
Robbie says he types in plain english:
King says "Like Councillor's Macmillan and Gandy I was not at the executive last them" yup - plain enough??
Filo is a REAL phoney. (No - I'm an original forgery)! More plain english? . . . LOL!
Filo pretends to vote Labour. Really, when? - I've voted in Local Elections - we've not had a general yet.
King says "The Green waste is an issue you would know nothing about unless you were a Tory Councillor".
(Yup, now I'm a Tory Councillor)!
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King says "Hello Tory Party Filo
Positive proof here that you are a Tory Pary Official". (Yup - he knows his stuff)!
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King says "only a tory councillor would know what went on" (Yup, I'm still a Cllr).
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King says "Deny this at will, we do not know who you are" . . . . (ohh, I thought you said I was a Tory Cllr, and official)?
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King says "You may not even be from Redditch at all" . . . (ohh - I thought I was a Cllr, aren't all their addresses in Redditch? I know Labour Cllr Harnett is Bromsgrove - it's on the web site - do have a look)!
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I hate to say it - but all anyone has to do is read the Council Minutes on the web site that shows that Labour Cllr. Cookson voted against King in the 2nd recommendation for Shared Services. That's what really gets up King's nose! (Well that and the fact he doesn't know who I am)!
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King says "you can put green waste in your grey bin" . . . Well you shouldn't! If king is doing that, he admits he is contributing to unecessary Land Fill Tax (intoduced by Labour Govt.) which hits Council Taxes and produces methane which harms the environment. He is supporting wasting money and doing nothing toward the environment, which is against what Brown is saying we should do! Why should everyone that composts subsidise a lazy Cllr that should know better. Get a compost heap. Little garden - little heap!
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So King admits "Alex" from Bromsgrove is doing a "great job" under the current Council - the procurement award was for 2009 under Cllr Gandy. Shame the Council didn't win it under Labour then?
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Easy Pickings - (thought you learned that when you wrote under Mary Trueman all the time) but I know you hate it when I get the better of you (not hard).
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Still not supporting Fair Funding for Redditch Schools then Robbie? Told Smith you've proved she should pay the £116000 back? Coward!
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Yup, I live in a MASSIVE mansion on a HUGE estate, with a couple of compost heaps. The swimming pool is so big, it has a tide! (We don't take up valuable housing stock from those who REALLY need it - no offence of course). "Comment no more"? We wish!
Robbie says he types in plain english:
King says "Like Councillor's Macmillan and Gandy I was not at the executive last them" yup - plain enough??
Filo is a REAL phoney. (No - I'm an original forgery)! More plain english? . . . LOL!
Filo pretends to vote Labour. Really, when? - I've voted in Local Elections - we've not had a general yet.
King says "The Green waste is an issue you would know nothing about unless you were a Tory Councillor".
(Yup, now I'm a Tory Councillor)!
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King says "Hello Tory Party Filo
Positive proof here that you are a Tory Pary Official". (Yup - he knows his stuff)!
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King says "only a tory councillor would know what went on" (Yup, I'm still a Cllr).
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King says "Deny this at will, we do not know who you are" . . . . (ohh, I thought you said I was a Tory Cllr, and official)?
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King says "You may not even be from Redditch at all" . . . (ohh - I thought I was a Cllr, aren't all their addresses in Redditch? I know Labour Cllr Harnett is Bromsgrove - it's on the web site - do have a look)!
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I hate to say it - but all anyone has to do is read the Council Minutes on the web site that shows that Labour Cllr. Cookson voted against King in the 2nd recommendation for Shared Services. That's what really gets up King's nose! (Well that and the fact he doesn't know who I am)!
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King says "you can put green waste in your grey bin" . . . Well you shouldn't! If king is doing that, he admits he is contributing to unecessary Land Fill Tax (intoduced by Labour Govt.) which hits Council Taxes and produces methane which harms the environment. He is supporting wasting money and doing nothing toward the environment, which is against what Brown is saying we should do! Why should everyone that composts subsidise a lazy Cllr that should know better. Get a compost heap. Little garden - little heap!
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So King admits "Alex" from Bromsgrove is doing a "great job" under the current Council - the procurement award was for 2009 under Cllr Gandy. Shame the Council didn't win it under Labour then?
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Easy Pickings - (thought you learned that when you wrote under Mary Trueman all the time) but I know you hate it when I get the better of you (not hard).
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Still not supporting Fair Funding for Redditch Schools then Robbie? Told Smith you've proved she should pay the £116000 back? Coward!
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Yup, I live in a MASSIVE mansion on a HUGE estate, with a couple of compost heaps. The swimming pool is so big, it has a tide! (We don't take up valuable housing stock from those who REALLY need it - no offence of course). "Comment no more"? We wish!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:41pm Thu 19 Nov 09
Filo I have upset you - good.
I will carry on some more
The council decide where grey bin rubbish goes filo and if they choose land fill then it is them who are at fault?
The tories are though making the Redditch COUNCIL TAX payer pay to enhance their green collection figures and tick boxes by introducing a system that increases the carbon foot print;
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The government is encouraging a move away from land fill.
You sound just like a councillor I know, totally opposed to green unless it saves money but having to go along with it for the sake of trying to win votes. He thinks every service must be justified with a business case revolving around cost, with little interest in its value.
Full of insults and quotes taken out of contexts on parts of others arguements that are twisted to deceive. Just like Cameron uses DEAD WAR HEROES to win votes. Disgusting.
Unfortunately for you filo, when your silly drab sarcasm goes down on paper it shows how small your arguments are.
Fair funding for Redditch schools would be here but for your friends as we get more from the government for our special needs cases, unfortunately we are under funded by the Tory led County Council who constantly ignore Redditch and concentrate on over funding the likes of Malvern in the South of Worcestershire. but back to the realityn of tory messups and poor management, uturns, splits and mistakes. Even the firework display was booed this year.
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Did you know it has cost £2,000,000 in Bromsgrove to set up this shared management team ETC, that means that at the end of the savings projected we will still be £800,000 pounds in the red without the setting up costs in Redditch.
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Wow I wonder if the Tories will win an award for that, I reckon the golden boot into oblivion when we make all this public knowledge.
I will repeat as seems to be the norm, the future sovereignty of Redditch was decided behind closed doors.
I cannot reveal the content of this session as it was confidential but the case put by deputy leader Mike Braley in the absence of the his Conservative Council leader was full of apologies and on three occasions words similar to “may not be the ideal package” were present in his fumbling and error riddled statements.
I warn Redditch that once the true facts are known the "mud" will hit the fan.
Honesty to go public with this has never figured in the Tory strategy, because the whole episode is not about savings, not about improved services but about keeping themselves in power. Such is the deceit of the Tory Party, riddled with phoney stunts and media led photo shoots.
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Getting back to that disgusting con fron conning and the heart-jerking photo of Cameron kneeling at a grave of a war veteran? Here is the disgusting truth behind that picture that papers like the Daily Mail hailed as caring Cameron.
Furious veterans slammed David Cameron yesterday for his “shameful” photo shoot at the Garden of Remembrance.
They were joined in their horror by Franklyn Hood, chairman of the National Service Veteran’s Association who stormed: “He has used this sacred ground like a cheap film set.”
Mr Hood, 73, said the Tory leader’s picture session at the Westminster Abbey memorial on Wednesday was “a calculating stunt and deeply shameful”. He added: “His actions were totally disrespectful to the memory of those who died.”
Once this story appeared in the Mirror the Scottish voters gave their verdict and showed the Tories the door in Glasgow; a terrific victory for Gordon and Labour.
The local electors will also show the Tories the door in Redditch once they are fully aware what is going on behind closed doors.
Watch this space for the future news about the TORY TAX on your waste collection.
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At last nights council Executive, in the absence of the Tory brains (Councillor Macmillan was absent) and without the leader Carol Gandy being present, the Tory proposal to roll out a pilot scheme to charge for the collection of green waste and to ban green waste fron grey bins went rolling off into the night, they lost the vote in disarray; they also lost another by their own party proposing opposite amendments to each other.
More later about these goons in local government later.
God Help us ALL
I will carry on some more
The council decide where grey bin rubbish goes filo and if they choose land fill then it is them who are at fault?
The tories are though making the Redditch COUNCIL TAX payer pay to enhance their green collection figures and tick boxes by introducing a system that increases the carbon foot print;
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The government is encouraging a move away from land fill.
You sound just like a councillor I know, totally opposed to green unless it saves money but having to go along with it for the sake of trying to win votes. He thinks every service must be justified with a business case revolving around cost, with little interest in its value.
Full of insults and quotes taken out of contexts on parts of others arguements that are twisted to deceive. Just like Cameron uses DEAD WAR HEROES to win votes. Disgusting.
Unfortunately for you filo, when your silly drab sarcasm goes down on paper it shows how small your arguments are.
Fair funding for Redditch schools would be here but for your friends as we get more from the government for our special needs cases, unfortunately we are under funded by the Tory led County Council who constantly ignore Redditch and concentrate on over funding the likes of Malvern in the South of Worcestershire. but back to the realityn of tory messups and poor management, uturns, splits and mistakes. Even the firework display was booed this year.
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Did you know it has cost £2,000,000 in Bromsgrove to set up this shared management team ETC, that means that at the end of the savings projected we will still be £800,000 pounds in the red without the setting up costs in Redditch.
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Wow I wonder if the Tories will win an award for that, I reckon the golden boot into oblivion when we make all this public knowledge.
I will repeat as seems to be the norm, the future sovereignty of Redditch was decided behind closed doors.
I cannot reveal the content of this session as it was confidential but the case put by deputy leader Mike Braley in the absence of the his Conservative Council leader was full of apologies and on three occasions words similar to “may not be the ideal package” were present in his fumbling and error riddled statements.
I warn Redditch that once the true facts are known the "mud" will hit the fan.
Honesty to go public with this has never figured in the Tory strategy, because the whole episode is not about savings, not about improved services but about keeping themselves in power. Such is the deceit of the Tory Party, riddled with phoney stunts and media led photo shoots.
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Getting back to that disgusting con fron conning and the heart-jerking photo of Cameron kneeling at a grave of a war veteran? Here is the disgusting truth behind that picture that papers like the Daily Mail hailed as caring Cameron.
Furious veterans slammed David Cameron yesterday for his “shameful” photo shoot at the Garden of Remembrance.
They were joined in their horror by Franklyn Hood, chairman of the National Service Veteran’s Association who stormed: “He has used this sacred ground like a cheap film set.”
Mr Hood, 73, said the Tory leader’s picture session at the Westminster Abbey memorial on Wednesday was “a calculating stunt and deeply shameful”. He added: “His actions were totally disrespectful to the memory of those who died.”
Once this story appeared in the Mirror the Scottish voters gave their verdict and showed the Tories the door in Glasgow; a terrific victory for Gordon and Labour.
The local electors will also show the Tories the door in Redditch once they are fully aware what is going on behind closed doors.
Watch this space for the future news about the TORY TAX on your waste collection.
STOP PRESS***STOP PRESS***STOP PRESS***************
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TORIES SPLIT ON WASTE COLLECTION STEALTH TAX
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At last nights council Executive, in the absence of the Tory brains (Councillor Macmillan was absent) and without the leader Carol Gandy being present, the Tory proposal to roll out a pilot scheme to charge for the collection of green waste and to ban green waste fron grey bins went rolling off into the night, they lost the vote in disarray; they also lost another by their own party proposing opposite amendments to each other.
More later about these goons in local government later.
God Help us ALL
Ronnie's thought, Headless Cross says...
9:03am Fri 20 Nov 09
Hi Filo
Have you been using my pool again??
Bit below the belt with your last comment on Cllr King. Rattled his cage? Yes. Deserved? Yes. On target? Yes, but still a bit below the belt - he is quite possibly struggling, even with a job at Pilkington who are part owned by GKN, and they are having major problems too. He may not have a job when Ms Smith loses her seat. Her problem is not many people will work for her, only desperados.
Spot on with the green waste. As a Cllr Mr King should know better than to put green waste in a grey bin, wherever it goes. What an admission of setting a poor example.
I think he has nailed his own coffin on the F40 campaign - he walked right into that as usual. To deny support to the children in his own town is disgraceful.
I too congtaulate the Council on it's latest award for efficiency. As you say - it never happened with a Labour Council. I see on the news this morning the LGA has quoted £4.5 billion is wasted by central government quangos controlling local government. Central Govt. headcount up 21% in 5 years, and 10% up in local Govt. That's where our money goes!
Not one comment of support for Labour from the audience on Question Time in Leicester last night. Lots of applause every time the EU referendum was mentioned. Labour is well and truly finished nationally.
Have you been using my pool again??
Bit below the belt with your last comment on Cllr King. Rattled his cage? Yes. Deserved? Yes. On target? Yes, but still a bit below the belt - he is quite possibly struggling, even with a job at Pilkington who are part owned by GKN, and they are having major problems too. He may not have a job when Ms Smith loses her seat. Her problem is not many people will work for her, only desperados.
Spot on with the green waste. As a Cllr Mr King should know better than to put green waste in a grey bin, wherever it goes. What an admission of setting a poor example.
I think he has nailed his own coffin on the F40 campaign - he walked right into that as usual. To deny support to the children in his own town is disgraceful.
I too congtaulate the Council on it's latest award for efficiency. As you say - it never happened with a Labour Council. I see on the news this morning the LGA has quoted £4.5 billion is wasted by central government quangos controlling local government. Central Govt. headcount up 21% in 5 years, and 10% up in local Govt. That's where our money goes!
Not one comment of support for Labour from the audience on Question Time in Leicester last night. Lots of applause every time the EU referendum was mentioned. Labour is well and truly finished nationally.
Filo, REDDITCH says...
9:51am Fri 20 Nov 09
Hi Ronnie
Dead right about Question Time, I noticed the same. Did you see the guest make reference to the decision to join the EU being made "behind closed doors". Thank you Gordon.
Upset by King? Moi? This is debeating . . . is it not? I'm a Cllr . . . he said so.
Below the belt? You should hear what is said in open debate in council meetings (according to King). But OK, perhaps he should have a council house. No one would want to buy one and have him next door!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
2:36pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"At last nights council Executive", . . . . blah blah blah . . . Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
6:28pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"Like Councillor's Macmillan and Gandy I was not at the executive" . . . . . . meeting?
So King wasn't even there! Hahahahaha! Yet he quotes all this info and it's only hearsay from him. LOL!
As I say - you cannot trust a thing this guy says. (Those who blindly quote . . . . . . . .)
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So I wonder what King's advice is to what we should do with our rubbish then, especially to reduce Land-fill or whatever. I know . . . . recycle it! (Is he stupid or what)?
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with"
Like I said, they won't miss you at full council meeting if this is the best you can put up. LOL
Dead right about Question Time, I noticed the same. Did you see the guest make reference to the decision to join the EU being made "behind closed doors". Thank you Gordon.
Upset by King? Moi? This is debeating . . . is it not? I'm a Cllr . . . he said so.
Below the belt? You should hear what is said in open debate in council meetings (according to King). But OK, perhaps he should have a council house. No one would want to buy one and have him next door!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
2:36pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"At last nights council Executive", . . . . blah blah blah . . . Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
6:28pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"Like Councillor's Macmillan and Gandy I was not at the executive" . . . . . . meeting?
So King wasn't even there! Hahahahaha! Yet he quotes all this info and it's only hearsay from him. LOL!
As I say - you cannot trust a thing this guy says. (Those who blindly quote . . . . . . . .)
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So I wonder what King's advice is to what we should do with our rubbish then, especially to reduce Land-fill or whatever. I know . . . . recycle it! (Is he stupid or what)?
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with"
Like I said, they won't miss you at full council meeting if this is the best you can put up. LOL
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:08am Fri 20 Nov 09
I cannot get personal with you Ron or with Filo, you are both so narrow and cowardly you are frightened to debate openly, because then you cannot lie, or commit libel from your anonymous positions.
I looked this up for you Ron, is your first name more? You are, as usual completely WRONG about GKN
When I was a younger socialist I lived in Northfield and when at school played near a place called Triplex and Burman’s. Sadly most of this vanished like my house during the last recession under Major and Lamont.
Triplex were taken over by the Pilkington you refer to who have since been taken over by Nippon Safety Glass. They are doing brilliantly and are currently taking on
new staff, around 10 so I believe. The company are a credit to Redditch, well managed and are a good successful company, have good relations with the trade unions and pay very good wages.
Once again Ron, my experience as a hard working councillor has been able to put you back on the right path, I check the facts before I write anything.
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Fact one
Cameron insulted the War dead by using their sacred ground as a publicity stunt.
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No wonder the Tories do their selling off of our town's sovereignty behind closed doors. Their shared management team will have cost the tax payer millions at the end of the strategic window used in the SERCO report.
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At the current shrinkage rate that occurs in calculations of the SERCO report; the once 3.2 million saving (shared by Bromsgrove) has shrunk in a few months to around a million (shared with Bromsgrove)
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By the offset of this folly it should be just about be breaking even. By the end of its strategic term, using a trend based deduction; it will be an amazing £3.2 million in the RED. (shared with Bromsgrove).
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Add in the £2,000,000 Bromsgrove set up costs and Redditch set up costs we will be several million in debts with less focus on what will be left of Redditch services - Brilliant, let’s give the Tories an award or two.
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Given your poor knowledge of local business Ron can you work out where the gain for Redditch is?
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Never mind, the 40,000 or so people that will be paying £30 to have their green waste collected, a service that is now FREE. They can pay even more council tax and local Tory stealth taxes to make up the short fall?
To answer filo's ECO question
Filo, using incineration is the most eco friendly way to dispose of it.
Plenty of local places to do that, and no new bins needed.
Look, the offer to give you two some training in local politics is still open, pop round or give me a call, I lay on refreshments, you both need help badly.
Using trucks that do 2.5 miles to the galleon to add to the carbon footprint is a toxic TORY POLICY.
God Help Redditch from the Tories in Tatters
I looked this up for you Ron, is your first name more? You are, as usual completely WRONG about GKN
When I was a younger socialist I lived in Northfield and when at school played near a place called Triplex and Burman’s. Sadly most of this vanished like my house during the last recession under Major and Lamont.
Triplex were taken over by the Pilkington you refer to who have since been taken over by Nippon Safety Glass. They are doing brilliantly and are currently taking on
new staff, around 10 so I believe. The company are a credit to Redditch, well managed and are a good successful company, have good relations with the trade unions and pay very good wages.
Once again Ron, my experience as a hard working councillor has been able to put you back on the right path, I check the facts before I write anything.
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Cameron insulted the War dead by using their sacred ground as a publicity stunt.
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No wonder the Tories do their selling off of our town's sovereignty behind closed doors. Their shared management team will have cost the tax payer millions at the end of the strategic window used in the SERCO report.
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At the current shrinkage rate that occurs in calculations of the SERCO report; the once 3.2 million saving (shared by Bromsgrove) has shrunk in a few months to around a million (shared with Bromsgrove)
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By the offset of this folly it should be just about be breaking even. By the end of its strategic term, using a trend based deduction; it will be an amazing £3.2 million in the RED. (shared with Bromsgrove).
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Add in the £2,000,000 Bromsgrove set up costs and Redditch set up costs we will be several million in debts with less focus on what will be left of Redditch services - Brilliant, let’s give the Tories an award or two.
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Given your poor knowledge of local business Ron can you work out where the gain for Redditch is?
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Never mind, the 40,000 or so people that will be paying £30 to have their green waste collected, a service that is now FREE. They can pay even more council tax and local Tory stealth taxes to make up the short fall?
To answer filo's ECO question
Filo, using incineration is the most eco friendly way to dispose of it.
Plenty of local places to do that, and no new bins needed.
Look, the offer to give you two some training in local politics is still open, pop round or give me a call, I lay on refreshments, you both need help badly.
Using trucks that do 2.5 miles to the galleon to add to the carbon footprint is a toxic TORY POLICY.
God Help Redditch from the Tories in Tatters
Ronnie's thought, Headless Cross says...
1:02pm Fri 20 Nov 09
GLASS ON WEB - Glass News - UK's GKN buys Pilkington aerospace ...July 23rd, 2003 - UK\'s GKN buys Pilkington aerospace glass business - British engineering firm GKN Plc said it was buying glass maker Pilkington Plc\'s . . . . .
Still there, still owned on the Kings Norton shared site, but I apologise and accept, they don't part own Pilkington Aerospace, they totally own it. Unlike you, I have no idea or interest in which Pilkington site you work.
Sounds like most of the businesses you go near disappear, Triplex? Kalamazoo? The latter, you recall Andy and Helen Neil?
40,000 people will not be paying to dispose of green waste. Everyone can compost it totally free. I am intigued as to how you can burn rubbish in a nuclear power station, or a hydro-electric station, or a wind turbine. These are present clean energy solutions, though nuclear I would argue. Are you not aware that steam/water vapour is one of the largest green-house gases?
Your model is to employ too many people for too much to do too little.
Your business appreciation always falls short when it comes to the REAL world.
Otherwise, I can stand by what I said.
"He may not have a job when Ms Smith loses her seat. Her problem is not many people will work for her, only desperados.
Spot on with the green waste. As a Cllr Mr King should know better than to put green waste in a grey bin, wherever it goes. What an admission of setting a poor example.
I think he has nailed his own coffin on the F40 campaign - he walked right into that as usual. To deny support to the children in his own town is disgraceful.
I too congtaulate the Council on it's latest award for efficiency. As you say - it never happened with a Labour Council. I see on the news this morning the LGA has quoted £4.5 billion is wasted by central government quangos controlling local government. Central Govt. headcount up 21% in 5 years, and 10% up in local Govt. That's where our money goes!
Not one comment of support for Labour from the audience on Question Time in Leicester last night. Lots of applause every time the EU referendum was mentioned. Labour is well and truly finished nationally".
Still there, still owned on the Kings Norton shared site, but I apologise and accept, they don't part own Pilkington Aerospace, they totally own it. Unlike you, I have no idea or interest in which Pilkington site you work.
Sounds like most of the businesses you go near disappear, Triplex? Kalamazoo? The latter, you recall Andy and Helen Neil?
40,000 people will not be paying to dispose of green waste. Everyone can compost it totally free. I am intigued as to how you can burn rubbish in a nuclear power station, or a hydro-electric station, or a wind turbine. These are present clean energy solutions, though nuclear I would argue. Are you not aware that steam/water vapour is one of the largest green-house gases?
Your model is to employ too many people for too much to do too little.
Your business appreciation always falls short when it comes to the REAL world.
Otherwise, I can stand by what I said.
"He may not have a job when Ms Smith loses her seat. Her problem is not many people will work for her, only desperados.
Spot on with the green waste. As a Cllr Mr King should know better than to put green waste in a grey bin, wherever it goes. What an admission of setting a poor example.
I think he has nailed his own coffin on the F40 campaign - he walked right into that as usual. To deny support to the children in his own town is disgraceful.
I too congtaulate the Council on it's latest award for efficiency. As you say - it never happened with a Labour Council. I see on the news this morning the LGA has quoted £4.5 billion is wasted by central government quangos controlling local government. Central Govt. headcount up 21% in 5 years, and 10% up in local Govt. That's where our money goes!
Not one comment of support for Labour from the audience on Question Time in Leicester last night. Lots of applause every time the EU referendum was mentioned. Labour is well and truly finished nationally".
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:29pm Fri 20 Nov 09
Latest opinion polls show us crepping up on Cameron but more importantly we will be back in power locally soon and trying to reverse the total mess the Tories have made.
Pilkington sold of its Aerospace glass business 6 years ago and it was only a fraction of its entire business.
Housing and plant (as in building Ron and not green waste) glacing and automotive have always been the bulk of Pilkington's business. So let's just say you were mostly wrong Ron to be polite.
Ron, I avidly support Europe and wish we were part of the Euro. We would then have a true benchmark to measure success across a broad band of key indicators as the currency would be the difinitive common factor.
I agree that more do not support my view but that is the way of it. I am sure it would change if the reality of leaving Europe ever becomes a serious threat. Are the tories split on this?
It seems that you and filo are going to give my training offer a miss so I will just have to keep this lesson going the hard way.
If you change your mind Ron, my door is always open to you, I feel you could benefit from my help.
God save Redditch
Pilkington sold of its Aerospace glass business 6 years ago and it was only a fraction of its entire business.
Housing and plant (as in building Ron and not green waste) glacing and automotive have always been the bulk of Pilkington's business. So let's just say you were mostly wrong Ron to be polite.
Ron, I avidly support Europe and wish we were part of the Euro. We would then have a true benchmark to measure success across a broad band of key indicators as the currency would be the difinitive common factor.
I agree that more do not support my view but that is the way of it. I am sure it would change if the reality of leaving Europe ever becomes a serious threat. Are the tories split on this?
It seems that you and filo are going to give my training offer a miss so I will just have to keep this lesson going the hard way.
If you change your mind Ron, my door is always open to you, I feel you could benefit from my help.
God save Redditch
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:30pm Fri 20 Nov 09
Latest opinion polls show us crepping up on Cameron but more importantly we will be back in power locally soon and trying to reverse the total mess the Tories have made.
Pilkington sold of its Aerospace glass business 6 years ago and it was only a fraction of its entire business.
Housing and plant (as in building Ron and not green waste) glacing and automotive have always been the bulk of Pilkington's business. So let's just say you were mostly wrong Ron to be polite.
Ron, I avidly support Europe and wish we were part of the Euro. We would then have a true benchmark to measure success across a broad band of key indicators as the currency would be the difinitive common factor.
I agree that more do not support my view but that is the way of it. I am sure it would change if the reality of leaving Europe ever becomes a serious threat. Are the tories split on this?
It seems that you and filo are going to give my training offer a miss so I will just have to keep this lesson going the hard way.
If you change your mind Ron, my door is always open to you, I feel you could benefit from my help.
God save Redditch
Pilkington sold of its Aerospace glass business 6 years ago and it was only a fraction of its entire business.
Housing and plant (as in building Ron and not green waste) glacing and automotive have always been the bulk of Pilkington's business. So let's just say you were mostly wrong Ron to be polite.
Ron, I avidly support Europe and wish we were part of the Euro. We would then have a true benchmark to measure success across a broad band of key indicators as the currency would be the difinitive common factor.
I agree that more do not support my view but that is the way of it. I am sure it would change if the reality of leaving Europe ever becomes a serious threat. Are the tories split on this?
It seems that you and filo are going to give my training offer a miss so I will just have to keep this lesson going the hard way.
If you change your mind Ron, my door is always open to you, I feel you could benefit from my help.
God save Redditch
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:48pm Fri 20 Nov 09
And just a final comment that I missed off.
I never said, or have ever put green waste in a grey bin, this just a lie by you and filo to win a battle you clearly have not the ability to win without lies and cheating. Please feel free to prove me wrong.
What I did say is quote;
"Not a choice Filo, you are allowed to put green waste in your grey bin now - free. If the pilot works and the Tories actually finally get their act together and whip it through full council. You will pay £30 if you want to use your green bin plus an extra £15 for the bin. So those of us with small gardens (most of the town) will be forced to pay for a service we now get free."
I do not use that service nor have I ever said I did. My wife takes our green waste to crossgates as I do not drive.
Never mind Ron, you'll be right about something soon if you keep going.
What I do no Ron is that people will be in uproar inon the estates if that happens. Why not put it on the council tax ron and do it honestly, then the service would be free in a way? As I said, a stealth tax
See you here next week, I'm off for a few days now.
The Tories are in tatters of their split on toxic tory policy, watch this space.....
God Save Redditch
I never said, or have ever put green waste in a grey bin, this just a lie by you and filo to win a battle you clearly have not the ability to win without lies and cheating. Please feel free to prove me wrong.
What I did say is quote;
"Not a choice Filo, you are allowed to put green waste in your grey bin now - free. If the pilot works and the Tories actually finally get their act together and whip it through full council. You will pay £30 if you want to use your green bin plus an extra £15 for the bin. So those of us with small gardens (most of the town) will be forced to pay for a service we now get free."
I do not use that service nor have I ever said I did. My wife takes our green waste to crossgates as I do not drive.
Never mind Ron, you'll be right about something soon if you keep going.
What I do no Ron is that people will be in uproar inon the estates if that happens. Why not put it on the council tax ron and do it honestly, then the service would be free in a way? As I said, a stealth tax
See you here next week, I'm off for a few days now.
The Tories are in tatters of their split on toxic tory policy, watch this space.....
God Save Redditch
Filo, REDDITCH says...
5:48pm Fri 20 Nov 09
Yaaaaaaaaawwwn! Oh - has he finished?
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:08am Fri 20 Nov 09
"I check the facts before I write anything". (Remember that)!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:48pm Fri 20 Nov 09
"I never said, or have ever put green waste in a grey bin, this just a lie by you and filo to win a battle you clearly have not the ability to win without lies and cheating. Please feel free to prove me wrong". (OK then)
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Filo, REDDITCH says...
10:22pm Thu 19 Nov 09
King says "you can put green waste in your grey bin" . . . Well you shouldn't! If king is doing that" . . .,
(I believe it says " IF " above . . . does it not. PROVED WRONG AGAIN! That was toooo easy)!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:08am Fri 20 Nov 09
"I check the facts before I write anything". (OK - here we go then)
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:29pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"Jacqui has faced up to the judgement given out to all MP’s involved and has paid back the £1500 asked for by the panel led by Sir Thomas Legg"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:40pm Sat 7 Nov 09
"Jacqui has paid back all that the investigasting panel said she had to. The amount £15000". . . . (woooops, well checked - little liar)!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:33am Thu 19 Nov 09
"Hello Tory Party Filo
Positive proof here that you are a Tory Pary Official" . ."only a tory councillor would know what went on". . . (checked and double checked)?? I am a Cllr then? Or did you make that up?
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:48pm Fri 20 Nov 09
"What I do no Ron is that people" . .(ooops)! That's a song isn't it? - I do know Ron Ron, I do Know Ron!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:33am Thu 19 Nov 09
"I will comment know more on this" (Comment KNOW more - I always check before I write? - try checking AFTER)?
"I'll leave you with the following".....
"Finally, as I will not bother to carry on this conversation" . . . .(ye right)
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:41pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"You sound just like a councillor I know" . . .(which one? - or are you a coward to say? Going to hide behind your wild unsupported checked accusations)?
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kingrobin, Redditch says...
9:57pm Fri 18 Sep 09
(re . shared services) . ."Did you like the headlines in the Standard tonight, proof positive that my views are supported whole heartedly by ALL of my colleagues", (Note "ALL")
I hate to say it - but all anyone has to do is read the Council Minutes on the web site that shows that Labour Cllr. Cookson voted against King in the 2nd recommendation for Shared Services. That's what really gets up King's nose! (Well that and the fact I've proven he tells lies and he doesn't know who I am)!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with"
Like I said, they won't miss you at full Conservative controlled council meeting if this is the best you can put up!
So, where do we start, he lies, he puts in false info, he makes things up, he's a hypocrite, doesn't check things before he writes (or after) he still hasn't agreed to support Fair Funding for Redditch Schools Redditch, and still han't told Smith he has proved she needs to pay the money back! Like I said, you cannot trust a word he says.
King can write a great pile of "Wrongs" (but let's just keep to his good points)!
tara!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:08am Fri 20 Nov 09
"I check the facts before I write anything". (Remember that)!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:48pm Fri 20 Nov 09
"I never said, or have ever put green waste in a grey bin, this just a lie by you and filo to win a battle you clearly have not the ability to win without lies and cheating. Please feel free to prove me wrong". (OK then)
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Filo, REDDITCH says...
10:22pm Thu 19 Nov 09
King says "you can put green waste in your grey bin" . . . Well you shouldn't! If king is doing that" . . .,
(I believe it says " IF " above . . . does it not. PROVED WRONG AGAIN! That was toooo easy)!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:08am Fri 20 Nov 09
"I check the facts before I write anything". (OK - here we go then)
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:29pm Fri 30 Oct 09
"Jacqui has faced up to the judgement given out to all MP’s involved and has paid back the £1500 asked for by the panel led by Sir Thomas Legg"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
9:40pm Sat 7 Nov 09
"Jacqui has paid back all that the investigasting panel said she had to. The amount £15000". . . . (woooops, well checked - little liar)!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:33am Thu 19 Nov 09
"Hello Tory Party Filo
Positive proof here that you are a Tory Pary Official" . ."only a tory councillor would know what went on". . . (checked and double checked)?? I am a Cllr then? Or did you make that up?
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:48pm Fri 20 Nov 09
"What I do no Ron is that people" . .(ooops)! That's a song isn't it? - I do know Ron Ron, I do Know Ron!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:33am Thu 19 Nov 09
"I will comment know more on this" (Comment KNOW more - I always check before I write? - try checking AFTER)?
"I'll leave you with the following".....
"Finally, as I will not bother to carry on this conversation" . . . .(ye right)
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
11:41pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"You sound just like a councillor I know" . . .(which one? - or are you a coward to say? Going to hide behind your wild unsupported checked accusations)?
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kingrobin, Redditch says...
9:57pm Fri 18 Sep 09
(re . shared services) . ."Did you like the headlines in the Standard tonight, proof positive that my views are supported whole heartedly by ALL of my colleagues", (Note "ALL")
I hate to say it - but all anyone has to do is read the Council Minutes on the web site that shows that Labour Cllr. Cookson voted against King in the 2nd recommendation for Shared Services. That's what really gets up King's nose! (Well that and the fact I've proven he tells lies and he doesn't know who I am)!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with"
Like I said, they won't miss you at full Conservative controlled council meeting if this is the best you can put up!
So, where do we start, he lies, he puts in false info, he makes things up, he's a hypocrite, doesn't check things before he writes (or after) he still hasn't agreed to support Fair Funding for Redditch Schools Redditch, and still han't told Smith he has proved she needs to pay the money back! Like I said, you cannot trust a word he says.
King can write a great pile of "Wrongs" (but let's just keep to his good points)!
tara!
Alan Turner, Redditch says...
6:34pm Fri 20 Nov 09
I do not like the idea of green bins.
I think it will lead to more fly tipping. I have read through all these comments and cannot understand how I am commenting on green bins. I thought the lead story was about a shared single management team. I think that will also cost more than they think. All the major officers usually end up getting enormous wage rises from these sort of things and I've never known a major council led initiative ever save money. Usually it is ones forced upon them by law that make savings.
The last person who commented was wrong, as I read Mr Ron's comment and he did say Councillor King said he used a grey bin and the Councillor pointed this mistake out to Ron not the previous person.
I think the green bins are being introduced so we are the same as Bromsgrove who used to provide the service free. They are a very rural area, and we are urban and the system will cause many problems here.
I think it will lead to more fly tipping. I have read through all these comments and cannot understand how I am commenting on green bins. I thought the lead story was about a shared single management team. I think that will also cost more than they think. All the major officers usually end up getting enormous wage rises from these sort of things and I've never known a major council led initiative ever save money. Usually it is ones forced upon them by law that make savings.
The last person who commented was wrong, as I read Mr Ron's comment and he did say Councillor King said he used a grey bin and the Councillor pointed this mistake out to Ron not the previous person.
I think the green bins are being introduced so we are the same as Bromsgrove who used to provide the service free. They are a very rural area, and we are urban and the system will cause many problems here.
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:06pm Sun 22 Nov 09
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch.
Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch.
Ronnie's thought, Headless Cross says...
9:25am Mon 23 Nov 09
Morning all
Seen the headlines over the weekend. Firstly, Cllr King's crapulaous rantings over the David Cameron debacle, he say's it was shameful, disrespectful, a publicity stunt plus much more while waving his accusing finger. All of which it quite possibly is, but he forgot to mention;
Gordon Brown arranged he same plus a video film crew!
"Mr Brown was accused of a 'tit-for-tat' response on learning that Mr Cameron had had his picture taken in the Abbey's Field of Remembrance".
"Jockeying: Gordon Brown with wife Sarah at Westminster Abbey's Garden of Remembrance after sending frantic messages during the service to demand a photographer and TV camera".
Still Robin - at least you always check your facts BEFORE you write anything!
Now, decisions behind closed doors ; We see Brown did a deal (behind closed doors of course) with the EU and Sarkozy to get Lady Ashton into the role of Foreign Affairs and Security. The price? Brown agrees to allow a Frenchman to control the City of London and and Financial Regulators. Knowing how Cllr. King "avidly" supports Europe and how different the financial structures are, he must be very pleased that we have again signed away our independence behind closed doors. Remember, France and Germany are already out of their recession as they were not in such a cronic financial situation when they hit it.
I don't think the Labour group is in a position to critisise anything done behind closed doors at the moment.
(P.S - Nice try Robin - think we can see through the rather feeble attempt).
Seen the headlines over the weekend. Firstly, Cllr King's crapulaous rantings over the David Cameron debacle, he say's it was shameful, disrespectful, a publicity stunt plus much more while waving his accusing finger. All of which it quite possibly is, but he forgot to mention;
Gordon Brown arranged he same plus a video film crew!
"Mr Brown was accused of a 'tit-for-tat' response on learning that Mr Cameron had had his picture taken in the Abbey's Field of Remembrance".
"Jockeying: Gordon Brown with wife Sarah at Westminster Abbey's Garden of Remembrance after sending frantic messages during the service to demand a photographer and TV camera".
Still Robin - at least you always check your facts BEFORE you write anything!
Now, decisions behind closed doors ; We see Brown did a deal (behind closed doors of course) with the EU and Sarkozy to get Lady Ashton into the role of Foreign Affairs and Security. The price? Brown agrees to allow a Frenchman to control the City of London and and Financial Regulators. Knowing how Cllr. King "avidly" supports Europe and how different the financial structures are, he must be very pleased that we have again signed away our independence behind closed doors. Remember, France and Germany are already out of their recession as they were not in such a cronic financial situation when they hit it.
I don't think the Labour group is in a position to critisise anything done behind closed doors at the moment.
(P.S - Nice try Robin - think we can see through the rather feeble attempt).
Filo, REDDITCH says...
10:58am Mon 23 Nov 09
Labour Buffoon; King Wrong again!
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Hi Cllr King Old Chap - Cllr. Filo here. Touching the old nerves with you now? ohhhhh good! I see the squirming and usual claim of ignorance or no understanding is in full flow. Strange how such an expert suddenly becomes so daft!
Let me write this slowly as I know you can't read . . . fast. The vote on the Second Recommendation on shared services took place in July. (OK so far)? Cllr Cookson voted against King and with Gandy - (nothing to do with a vote last Monday - Unless in September you were commenting on a vote 2 months later! LOL!) So, your claim of full support in September was a lie, therefore . . . you are a liar (seem clear enough)?
I trust now you will promise to pay the £1000 previously suggested to any local charity if you were caught untruthing again? I'd like to suggest Primrose Hospice please. I think we've put that one safely to bed now.
London stock exchange and banking sytems to be controlled by the French now because of a deal done by Brown behind closed doors? oh great!
Talking of which, as King says he totally supports the EU, I see Rompuy wants to impose an EU TAX (already?? He's only been there a couple of days) on the member states. My prediction was right - I warned Redditch! So, if 27 members put in a tenner, then equally share it out, that's . . . . a tenner each! (I checked that on my calculator Robbie). Oh - that would would be a waste of time. So let's get the wealthy countries, to put in a shed load of money, and give it to all the poor new members and the MEP's. With the German and French economies all doing OK now, we can really thump the Brits! (perhaps they won't, as the UK is bust now).
Ooooh Robbie, you slipped up big time with the The Remeberence Day - you've put yourself in the same boat as Brown and Cameron now - you tried to use it to make a cheap political point which has back-fired, you should have checked with Brown before you wrote anything. I trust you'll let him know your thoughts . . . . after you've told Jacqui you proved she needs to pay-back £116K . . .
Thank you in your round-about way for apologising to me for your accusation over the grey bin and Smith's payback amongst others, which of course I accept once again graciously. It does quite plainly say "if" - did you not check?? Where though, did you actually "admit it" - I cannot find it anywhere? It must be there somewhere, otherwise that makes you a liar again, and we don't want that . . . .
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What were you doing at Full Council Meeting?
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with".
As Ronnie P.S. say's - nice try schitzo but I saw through that before I even got to Ronnies blog.
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Hi Cllr King Old Chap - Cllr. Filo here. Touching the old nerves with you now? ohhhhh good! I see the squirming and usual claim of ignorance or no understanding is in full flow. Strange how such an expert suddenly becomes so daft!
Let me write this slowly as I know you can't read . . . fast. The vote on the Second Recommendation on shared services took place in July. (OK so far)? Cllr Cookson voted against King and with Gandy - (nothing to do with a vote last Monday - Unless in September you were commenting on a vote 2 months later! LOL!) So, your claim of full support in September was a lie, therefore . . . you are a liar (seem clear enough)?
I trust now you will promise to pay the £1000 previously suggested to any local charity if you were caught untruthing again? I'd like to suggest Primrose Hospice please. I think we've put that one safely to bed now.
London stock exchange and banking sytems to be controlled by the French now because of a deal done by Brown behind closed doors? oh great!
Talking of which, as King says he totally supports the EU, I see Rompuy wants to impose an EU TAX (already?? He's only been there a couple of days) on the member states. My prediction was right - I warned Redditch! So, if 27 members put in a tenner, then equally share it out, that's . . . . a tenner each! (I checked that on my calculator Robbie). Oh - that would would be a waste of time. So let's get the wealthy countries, to put in a shed load of money, and give it to all the poor new members and the MEP's. With the German and French economies all doing OK now, we can really thump the Brits! (perhaps they won't, as the UK is bust now).
Ooooh Robbie, you slipped up big time with the The Remeberence Day - you've put yourself in the same boat as Brown and Cameron now - you tried to use it to make a cheap political point which has back-fired, you should have checked with Brown before you wrote anything. I trust you'll let him know your thoughts . . . . after you've told Jacqui you proved she needs to pay-back £116K . . .
Thank you in your round-about way for apologising to me for your accusation over the grey bin and Smith's payback amongst others, which of course I accept once again graciously. It does quite plainly say "if" - did you not check?? Where though, did you actually "admit it" - I cannot find it anywhere? It must be there somewhere, otherwise that makes you a liar again, and we don't want that . . . .
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What were you doing at Full Council Meeting?
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
10:58pm Mon 9 Nov 09
"I cannot attend a group I fundamentally disagree with".
As Ronnie P.S. say's - nice try schitzo but I saw through that before I even got to Ronnies blog.
kingborin, Redditch says...
12:16pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Was that a typo, there was a film in the 30's like that ;
Should it not read LABOUR BABOON, KING WRONG?
Mr Alan, the lead story was about shared services, and i'm pleased the council is getting on with things. No need to worry, it won't cost more than we think and it will keep our taxes down and keep valuable services. They know how many '0's to put on, unlike some.
I read Mr Filo comments and it does say 'IF' that was happening. Then Cllr King wrote 'the lie by you and Mr Filo'. Mr Filo is correct to point out the mistake as the Cllr. is King Wrong and should apologise to Mr Filo.
Should it not read LABOUR BABOON, KING WRONG?
Mr Alan, the lead story was about shared services, and i'm pleased the council is getting on with things. No need to worry, it won't cost more than we think and it will keep our taxes down and keep valuable services. They know how many '0's to put on, unlike some.
I read Mr Filo comments and it does say 'IF' that was happening. Then Cllr King wrote 'the lie by you and Mr Filo'. Mr Filo is correct to point out the mistake as the Cllr. is King Wrong and should apologise to Mr Filo.
Filo, REDDITCH says...
4:57pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Cllr King, you started off with earlier offerings some time ago pretending you were an ordinary person who used to vote Labour, now we know you are a true Rebel Red phoney like BROWN, who uses the war dead as a political weapon. Are you sure you’re not BROWN, you sound as low and as cheap as he is. Such is the deceit of the LABOUR Party, riddled with phoney stunts and media led photo shoots.
Fact one
Brown insulted the War dead by using their sacred ground as a publicity stunt. (This all sounds familiar)!!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
6:28pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"Not a choice Filo, you are allowed to put green waste in your grey bin now - free. So those of US" (Cllr King includes himself) "with small gardens (most of the town) will be forced to pay for a service WE" (Cllr King again includes himself) "now get free".
Sounds to me like the lazy ol' Cllr just chucks it all in!
But only Mr King's simple socialistic brain could think there is such a thing as a FREE service. It's OK for someone else to pay 'cos he won't!
Get a compost heap then! Just think Robbie, no big lorries collecting waste, your poor old wifey won't have to sit in her car at the dump on her own, with the engine running, struggling to empty your little garden rubbish while you sit at home playing Cllrs on the internet. You can have a little compost heap and she can recycle your green household rubbish with your green garden rubbish and she can make some community gardens out the front of your little place . . . how nice and how green is that?
Why should the people like me in my large mansion with my compost heap, big gates, Victorian fire places, patio heaters, plant pots, multiple washing machines and multiple flat screeen TV's, cameras and my Victorian Bath and Plug have to subsidise waste collection for people that cannot be bothered to seperate rubbish for recyling?
Cllr King wants all the liitle houses with little gardens to pay more Council tax. He is for higher taxes now, as well as against Recycling and Fair Funding for Redditch Schools! Some manifesto !
Think my job is finished here - as Mr King is!
Fact one
Brown insulted the War dead by using their sacred ground as a publicity stunt. (This all sounds familiar)!!
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
6:28pm Thu 19 Nov 09
"Not a choice Filo, you are allowed to put green waste in your grey bin now - free. So those of US" (Cllr King includes himself) "with small gardens (most of the town) will be forced to pay for a service WE" (Cllr King again includes himself) "now get free".
Sounds to me like the lazy ol' Cllr just chucks it all in!
But only Mr King's simple socialistic brain could think there is such a thing as a FREE service. It's OK for someone else to pay 'cos he won't!
Get a compost heap then! Just think Robbie, no big lorries collecting waste, your poor old wifey won't have to sit in her car at the dump on her own, with the engine running, struggling to empty your little garden rubbish while you sit at home playing Cllrs on the internet. You can have a little compost heap and she can recycle your green household rubbish with your green garden rubbish and she can make some community gardens out the front of your little place . . . how nice and how green is that?
Why should the people like me in my large mansion with my compost heap, big gates, Victorian fire places, patio heaters, plant pots, multiple washing machines and multiple flat screeen TV's, cameras and my Victorian Bath and Plug have to subsidise waste collection for people that cannot be bothered to seperate rubbish for recyling?
Cllr King wants all the liitle houses with little gardens to pay more Council tax. He is for higher taxes now, as well as against Recycling and Fair Funding for Redditch Schools! Some manifesto !
Think my job is finished here - as Mr King is!
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:05pm Mon 23 Nov 09
The reason I changed to councillor was because nameless people accused me of pretending to be, to quote the real filo? "an ordinary person".
So being honest and open and despising the cowardly antics and insults fired at me and other people my moronic anonymous cowards, I decided to add Councillor.
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I have had this row with the Editor of another local newspaper who seems to thinks I cannot put my name to a letter as Robin King, and changes it. He then posts letters supporting BNP policy from "Name and address supplied."
Double STANDARDS I think.
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I spent Friday evening in the company of David Kidney MP, Junior Minister in the Department of Energy and Climate Change. David was the former chair of f40 – the Campaign for fairer funding in Education.
Anyway getting back to the comments, as my last offering drew a whole lot of garbage from the Tory toxic supporters I will repeat it
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch.
So being honest and open and despising the cowardly antics and insults fired at me and other people my moronic anonymous cowards, I decided to add Councillor.
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I have had this row with the Editor of another local newspaper who seems to thinks I cannot put my name to a letter as Robin King, and changes it. He then posts letters supporting BNP policy from "Name and address supplied."
Double STANDARDS I think.
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I spent Friday evening in the company of David Kidney MP, Junior Minister in the Department of Energy and Climate Change. David was the former chair of f40 – the Campaign for fairer funding in Education.
Anyway getting back to the comments, as my last offering drew a whole lot of garbage from the Tory toxic supporters I will repeat it
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch.
Ronnie's thought, Headless Cross says...
12:43pm Tue 24 Nov 09
kingrobin, Redditch says...
9:57pm Fri 18 Sep 09
(re . shared services) . ."Did you like the headlines in the Standard tonight, proof positive that my views are supported whole heartedly by ALL of my colleagues"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:06pm Sun 22 Nov 09
"What has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar?"
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Minutes from the meeting which are in question;
"The Council then considered the original motion, as proposed by Councillor Gandy, to approve, subject to the agreed amendments, the Executive Committee’s Recommendation 2".
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"On requisition of a Member, and in accordance with Standing Order 16, the following Named Vote was recorded in respect of Recommendation 2 and its agreed amendments":
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"Members voting FOR the motion":
"Councillors Anderson, Banks, Braley, Brunner, Chalk, A Clayton, B Clayton, Cookson, Enderby, Gandy, Hall, Hicks, Hopkins, MacMillan, Norton, Pearce, Quinney, Smith and Thomas. (19 votes)"
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"Members voting AGAINST the motion":
"Councillors Chance, Hartnett, Hunt, R King, W King, Shurmer and Taylor. (7 votes)"
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Looks like Filo is right - honest, open(?) Cllr King. Labour Cllr Cookson did indeed vote against you and with the Council for shared services. Perhaps he voted on his ward's wishes, not his own.
You have been well and truly hung out to LIE! You are a disgrace to honest respectful councillors, proven to be no more than a callous and habitual liar.
I too would support you giving the £1000 to the Primrose Hospice. Perhaps you could let us know when you have made it - or have a photo?
P.S.
The editor probably puts your name to your letters as he knows you lie. As Filo said - job done.
Thank you.
9:57pm Fri 18 Sep 09
(re . shared services) . ."Did you like the headlines in the Standard tonight, proof positive that my views are supported whole heartedly by ALL of my colleagues"
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
8:06pm Sun 22 Nov 09
"What has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar?"
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Minutes from the meeting which are in question;
"The Council then considered the original motion, as proposed by Councillor Gandy, to approve, subject to the agreed amendments, the Executive Committee’s Recommendation 2".
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"On requisition of a Member, and in accordance with Standing Order 16, the following Named Vote was recorded in respect of Recommendation 2 and its agreed amendments":
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"Members voting FOR the motion":
"Councillors Anderson, Banks, Braley, Brunner, Chalk, A Clayton, B Clayton, Cookson, Enderby, Gandy, Hall, Hicks, Hopkins, MacMillan, Norton, Pearce, Quinney, Smith and Thomas. (19 votes)"
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"Members voting AGAINST the motion":
"Councillors Chance, Hartnett, Hunt, R King, W King, Shurmer and Taylor. (7 votes)"
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Looks like Filo is right - honest, open(?) Cllr King. Labour Cllr Cookson did indeed vote against you and with the Council for shared services. Perhaps he voted on his ward's wishes, not his own.
You have been well and truly hung out to LIE! You are a disgrace to honest respectful councillors, proven to be no more than a callous and habitual liar.
I too would support you giving the £1000 to the Primrose Hospice. Perhaps you could let us know when you have made it - or have a photo?
P.S.
The editor probably puts your name to your letters as he knows you lie. As Filo said - job done.
Thank you.
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
2:10pm Tue 24 Nov 09
LOCAL TORIES OUT OF STEP WITH CAMERON AND OZZIE
People who recycle household waste would get up to £130 a year in shopping vouchers under the Tories, George Osborne has said.
They have been piloting the US-style scheme in Berkshire and say they would roll it out to councils across Britain.
In a speech the shadow chancellor said a Conservative government would reward people who recycled, not "punish them" with "bin taxes".
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It seems Carol Gandy is opposing her Parliamentary spokesperson that slavishly supports Cameron.
THE SPLIT IN THE TORY PARTY IS DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT; I WONDER WHO WILL WIN THIS ONE?
CAROL OR KAREN?
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Mind you, the vouchers only get cashed if you spend a fortune on products you probably don't need. I wonder if there is a £30 green tax voucher to pay Redditch Council.
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No more Ron please you are embarrassing. Please give me a ring, I can help. Ron the full council filo referred to was in September the one I referred to was last week. Take a tablet and come back later.
Seriously, it is amazing how the Tories and their allies leap in with several posts to lead away from my report of the truth, it is almost as if it was organised. It is a shame they're so busy defending there appalling Tory led council they rush around and forget to read the comments correctly.
As it does not seem to sink in Ron I will go through it all again with you in the some of it gets through.
The reason I changed to councillor was because nameless people accused me of pretending to be, to quote the real filo? "An ordinary person".
So being honest and open and despising the cowardly antics and insults fired at me and other people by my moronic anonymous cowards, I decided to add Councillor.
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I have had this row with the Editor of another local newspaper who seems to thinks I cannot put my name to a letter as Robin King, and changes it. He then posts letters supporting BNP policy from "Name and address supplied."
Double STANDARDS I think.
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I spent Friday evening in the company of David Kidney MP, Junior Minister in the Department of Energy and Climate Change. David was the former chair of f40 – the Campaign for fairer funding in Education.
Anyway getting back to the comments, as my last offering drew a whole lot of garbage from the Tory toxic supporters I will repeat it
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
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!!!! NOTE!!!! -- The one filo tried to con us all with happened in September, followed by a headline that jack was part of followed by the vote a week or so ago at the last full council. God Ron, you are hard work
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Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council.
Robin says the truth and is willing to meet any of you at the town hall anytime to prove it.
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch
People who recycle household waste would get up to £130 a year in shopping vouchers under the Tories, George Osborne has said.
They have been piloting the US-style scheme in Berkshire and say they would roll it out to councils across Britain.
In a speech the shadow chancellor said a Conservative government would reward people who recycled, not "punish them" with "bin taxes".
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It seems Carol Gandy is opposing her Parliamentary spokesperson that slavishly supports Cameron.
THE SPLIT IN THE TORY PARTY IS DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT; I WONDER WHO WILL WIN THIS ONE?
CAROL OR KAREN?
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Mind you, the vouchers only get cashed if you spend a fortune on products you probably don't need. I wonder if there is a £30 green tax voucher to pay Redditch Council.
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No more Ron please you are embarrassing. Please give me a ring, I can help. Ron the full council filo referred to was in September the one I referred to was last week. Take a tablet and come back later.
Seriously, it is amazing how the Tories and their allies leap in with several posts to lead away from my report of the truth, it is almost as if it was organised. It is a shame they're so busy defending there appalling Tory led council they rush around and forget to read the comments correctly.
As it does not seem to sink in Ron I will go through it all again with you in the some of it gets through.
The reason I changed to councillor was because nameless people accused me of pretending to be, to quote the real filo? "An ordinary person".
So being honest and open and despising the cowardly antics and insults fired at me and other people by my moronic anonymous cowards, I decided to add Councillor.
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I have had this row with the Editor of another local newspaper who seems to thinks I cannot put my name to a letter as Robin King, and changes it. He then posts letters supporting BNP policy from "Name and address supplied."
Double STANDARDS I think.
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I spent Friday evening in the company of David Kidney MP, Junior Minister in the Department of Energy and Climate Change. David was the former chair of f40 – the Campaign for fairer funding in Education.
Anyway getting back to the comments, as my last offering drew a whole lot of garbage from the Tory toxic supporters I will repeat it
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
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!!!! NOTE!!!! -- The one filo tried to con us all with happened in September, followed by a headline that jack was part of followed by the vote a week or so ago at the last full council. God Ron, you are hard work
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Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council.
Robin says the truth and is willing to meet any of you at the town hall anytime to prove it.
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch
Ronnie's thought, Headless Cross says...
3:21pm Tue 24 Nov 09
oh dear Robin, what a fool you have been.
You lied in your comment quoted on the 18th Sept after the Council Meeting on Shared Services, then try to say it refers to a meeting which takes place 2 months later?
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What an habitual liar you have truly been revealed to be. Cllr Cookson did indeed vote with the Council as clearly recorded in the copy of the minutes above.
Thankfully, the public do not suffer fools.
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You portray a very spiteful, lying figure indeed. I pity your wife and children, they deserve it.
You lied in your comment quoted on the 18th Sept after the Council Meeting on Shared Services, then try to say it refers to a meeting which takes place 2 months later?
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What an habitual liar you have truly been revealed to be. Cllr Cookson did indeed vote with the Council as clearly recorded in the copy of the minutes above.
Thankfully, the public do not suffer fools.
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You portray a very spiteful, lying figure indeed. I pity your wife and children, they deserve it.
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
5:11pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Ron, when have I denied what councillor Jack Cookson voted for in September? and what has that got to do with a headline in the Standard that was about our leader saying we did not support a shared chief executive or a shared management board?. Will you please let us all know, if you do find out.
The vote that passed the Joint Management board was taken a week or so ago in OCTOBER and Jack, along with the rest of us voted against the proposal. So, however Jack voted in September was not for the proposal as it has only just been voted on. What Jack voted for in September, mistakenly in my opinion, was not a final proposal so it was irrelevant. You do see this now?
The lie is that you think I did; or rather try to escape from you total inability to understand what is going on by telling lies. I am willing to go public with you and prove it. You are not, what does that tell decent people.
You get personal and bring my work, my wife, my and children and Poor old Councillor Cookson into the argument. What are you if not a true Tory. But the truth is the truth and like I say I am willing to face you in a COURTROOM TO PROVE IT anytime you choose.
I apologise to those few people who may be reading this as I admit it is becoming tiresome but it seems I must keep repeating what has gone on as Ron is having problems.
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LOCAL TORIES OUT OF STEP WITH CAMERON AND OZZIE
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People who recycle household waste would get up to £130 a year in shopping vouchers under the Tories, George Osborne has said.
They have been piloting the US-style scheme in Berkshire and say they would roll it out to councils across Britain.
In a speech the shadow chancellor said a Conservative government would reward people who recycled, not "punish them" with "bin taxes".
**********
It seems Carol Gandy is opposing her Parliamentary spokesperson that slavishly supports Cameron.
THE SPLIT IN THE TORY PARTY IS DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT; I WONDER WHO WILL WIN THIS ONE?
CAROL OR KAREN?
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Mind you, the vouchers only get cashed if you spend a fortune on products you probably don't need. I wonder if there is a £30 green tax voucher to pay Redditch Council.
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No more Ron please you are embarrassing. Please give me a ring, I can help. Ron the full council filo referred to was in September the one I referred to was last week. Take a tablet and come back later.
Seriously, it is amazing how the Tories and their allies leap in with several posts to lead away from my report of the truth, it is almost as if it was organised. It is a shame they're so busy defending there appalling Tory led council they rush around and forget to read the comments correctly.
As it does not seem to sink in Ron I will go through it all again with you in the some of it gets through.
The reason I changed to councillor was because nameless people accused me of pretending to be, to quote the real filo? "An ordinary person".
So being honest and open and despising the cowardly antics and insults fired at me and other people by my moronic anonymous cowards, I decided to add Councillor.
**********
I have had this row with the Editor of another local newspaper who seems to thinks I cannot put my name to a letter as Robin King, and changes it. He then posts letters supporting BNP policy from "Name and address supplied."
Double STANDARDS I think.
**********
I spent Friday evening in the company of David Kidney MP, Junior Minister in the Department of Energy and Climate Change. David was the former chair of f40 – the Campaign for fairer funding in Education.
Anyway getting back to the comments, as my last offering drew a whole lot of garbage from the Tory toxic supporters I will repeat it
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
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!!!! NOTE!!!! -- The one filo tried to con us all with happened in September, followed by a headline that jack was part of followed by the vote a week or so ago at the last full council. God Ron, you are hard work
**********
Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council.
Robin says the truth and is willing to meet any of you at the town hall anytime to prove it.
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch
The vote that passed the Joint Management board was taken a week or so ago in OCTOBER and Jack, along with the rest of us voted against the proposal. So, however Jack voted in September was not for the proposal as it has only just been voted on. What Jack voted for in September, mistakenly in my opinion, was not a final proposal so it was irrelevant. You do see this now?
The lie is that you think I did; or rather try to escape from you total inability to understand what is going on by telling lies. I am willing to go public with you and prove it. You are not, what does that tell decent people.
You get personal and bring my work, my wife, my and children and Poor old Councillor Cookson into the argument. What are you if not a true Tory. But the truth is the truth and like I say I am willing to face you in a COURTROOM TO PROVE IT anytime you choose.
I apologise to those few people who may be reading this as I admit it is becoming tiresome but it seems I must keep repeating what has gone on as Ron is having problems.
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LOCAL TORIES OUT OF STEP WITH CAMERON AND OZZIE
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People who recycle household waste would get up to £130 a year in shopping vouchers under the Tories, George Osborne has said.
They have been piloting the US-style scheme in Berkshire and say they would roll it out to councils across Britain.
In a speech the shadow chancellor said a Conservative government would reward people who recycled, not "punish them" with "bin taxes".
**********
It seems Carol Gandy is opposing her Parliamentary spokesperson that slavishly supports Cameron.
THE SPLIT IN THE TORY PARTY IS DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT; I WONDER WHO WILL WIN THIS ONE?
CAROL OR KAREN?
**********
Mind you, the vouchers only get cashed if you spend a fortune on products you probably don't need. I wonder if there is a £30 green tax voucher to pay Redditch Council.
**********
No more Ron please you are embarrassing. Please give me a ring, I can help. Ron the full council filo referred to was in September the one I referred to was last week. Take a tablet and come back later.
Seriously, it is amazing how the Tories and their allies leap in with several posts to lead away from my report of the truth, it is almost as if it was organised. It is a shame they're so busy defending there appalling Tory led council they rush around and forget to read the comments correctly.
As it does not seem to sink in Ron I will go through it all again with you in the some of it gets through.
The reason I changed to councillor was because nameless people accused me of pretending to be, to quote the real filo? "An ordinary person".
So being honest and open and despising the cowardly antics and insults fired at me and other people by my moronic anonymous cowards, I decided to add Councillor.
**********
I have had this row with the Editor of another local newspaper who seems to thinks I cannot put my name to a letter as Robin King, and changes it. He then posts letters supporting BNP policy from "Name and address supplied."
Double STANDARDS I think.
**********
I spent Friday evening in the company of David Kidney MP, Junior Minister in the Department of Energy and Climate Change. David was the former chair of f40 – the Campaign for fairer funding in Education.
Anyway getting back to the comments, as my last offering drew a whole lot of garbage from the Tory toxic supporters I will repeat it
My God filo you are getting desperate, what has a vote at full council to do with a headline in the Standard? And, how does that make me a liar? The vote that imposed the whole debacle of the shared management team, was decided last Monday and ALL THE LABOUR MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE PROSPOSAL INCLUDING JACK COOKSON.
**********
!!!! NOTE!!!! -- The one filo tried to con us all with happened in September, followed by a headline that jack was part of followed by the vote a week or so ago at the last full council. God Ron, you are hard work
**********
Yes I may have made a typo with figures but I clearly identified the correct amount at the earlier statement. Being honest I admit my mistakes. I think that answers your silly points.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
Now getting back to the nearly 2 to 3 million it has cost Redditch and Bromsgrove to reduce the strategic service we have and to save £1.2 million.
Do we not take the £2 to £3 million away from the £1.2 million (which is only a guestimate), how much is left filo? (Come on you must have a calculator).
I think we ought to be binning this one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council.
Robin says the truth and is willing to meet any of you at the town hall anytime to prove it.
The Tories are in tatters - God save Redditch
Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
1:26pm Wed 25 Nov 09
Just to make it plain Ron
LOCAL TORIES OUT OF STEP WITH CAMERON AND OZZIE
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People who recycle household waste would get up to £130 a year in shopping vouchers under the Tories, George Osborne has said.
They have been piloting the US-style scheme in Berkshire and say they would roll it out to councils across Britain.
In a speech the shadow chancellor said a Conservative government would reward people who recycled, not "punish them" with "bin taxes".
**********
It seems Carol Gandy is opposing her Parliamentary spokesperson that slavishly supports Cameron.
THE SPLIT IN THE TORY PARTY IS DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT; I WONDER WHO WILL WIN THIS ONE?
CAROL OR KAREN?
**********
Mind you, the vouchers only get cashed if you spend a fortune on products you probably don't need. I wonder if there is a £30 green tax voucher to pay Redditch Council.
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Ron, when have I denied what councillor Jack Cookson voted for in September? and what has that got to do with a headline in the Standard that was about our leader saying we did not support a shared chief executive or a shared management board?. Will you please let us all know, if you do find out.
The lie is that you think I lied; or rather you try to escape from your total inability to understand what is going on by telling lies. I am willing to go public with you and prove it. You are not, what does that tell decent people.
You get personal and bring my work, my wife, my and children and Poor old Councillor Cookson into the argument. What are you if not a true Tory. But the truth is the truth and like I say I am willing to face you in a COURTROOM TO PROVE IT anytime you choose.
Still you the treacherous Tory media mafia try to lie and cheat in an attempt to fool the few readers that have not been frightened off by their tactics.
You have no answers to the Green Bin Tax scandal or the debacle of the Tories spending £2 million to save a guesstimate of £1.2 million with their ludicrous shared management team proposal.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
I think we ought to be binning the shared services one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on and on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council.
I doubt they will have any cuts in their basket next year and there will be a low council tax increase because it is a general election year. But the selling out of Redditch independence will be enough to oust them
In a Tory Britain this is what you get
The families of members of David Cameron's shadow cabinet stand to gain a total of £7 million if the Conservatives win the election and implement their promise to cut inheritance tax, and that’s the sick truth.
The Tories are in Tatters
God Save Redditch!!!
LOCAL TORIES OUT OF STEP WITH CAMERON AND OZZIE
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People who recycle household waste would get up to £130 a year in shopping vouchers under the Tories, George Osborne has said.
They have been piloting the US-style scheme in Berkshire and say they would roll it out to councils across Britain.
In a speech the shadow chancellor said a Conservative government would reward people who recycled, not "punish them" with "bin taxes".
**********
It seems Carol Gandy is opposing her Parliamentary spokesperson that slavishly supports Cameron.
THE SPLIT IN THE TORY PARTY IS DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT; I WONDER WHO WILL WIN THIS ONE?
CAROL OR KAREN?
**********
Mind you, the vouchers only get cashed if you spend a fortune on products you probably don't need. I wonder if there is a £30 green tax voucher to pay Redditch Council.
**********
Ron, when have I denied what councillor Jack Cookson voted for in September? and what has that got to do with a headline in the Standard that was about our leader saying we did not support a shared chief executive or a shared management board?. Will you please let us all know, if you do find out.
The lie is that you think I lied; or rather you try to escape from your total inability to understand what is going on by telling lies. I am willing to go public with you and prove it. You are not, what does that tell decent people.
You get personal and bring my work, my wife, my and children and Poor old Councillor Cookson into the argument. What are you if not a true Tory. But the truth is the truth and like I say I am willing to face you in a COURTROOM TO PROVE IT anytime you choose.
Still you the treacherous Tory media mafia try to lie and cheat in an attempt to fool the few readers that have not been frightened off by their tactics.
You have no answers to the Green Bin Tax scandal or the debacle of the Tories spending £2 million to save a guesstimate of £1.2 million with their ludicrous shared management team proposal.
You have, of course to look at anything but the issues we discuss as you must find it hard to defend a Tory Group that cannot get their act together and are in such disarray that they propose opposing amendments at council executive.
I think we ought to be binning the shared services one don't you? We had better put it in the grey bin as we do not want this garbage recycled.
Still you lot rabbit on and on about anything but the mess the Tories are making at running our council.
I doubt they will have any cuts in their basket next year and there will be a low council tax increase because it is a general election year. But the selling out of Redditch independence will be enough to oust them
In a Tory Britain this is what you get
The families of members of David Cameron's shadow cabinet stand to gain a total of £7 million if the Conservatives win the election and implement their promise to cut inheritance tax, and that’s the sick truth.
The Tories are in Tatters
God Save Redditch!!!
Filo, REDDITCH says...
11:09am Mon 7 Dec 09
Wow Robbie, your sos campaign has really taken off . . . . loads of comments . . . . but they're all yours! LOL (Little letters for a little "campaign". You seem to have run out of steam)!
Remember how many letters slated Smith and her expenses compared to your "campaign".
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Brown announces £12 billion of cuts today! Wait for the tax hikes now on everyone.
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Seems the people of Redditch want good services at the right price with low council tax and see some money saved, whoever delivers them.
One thing for sure, Labour can't be trusted to do it now the split is getting even bigger. Labour Cllr Robin King wrote we should pay more Council Tax, and he won't support Redditch Schools getting more money for its pupils in the f40 Fair Funding Campaign.
Anyone for Mr King?
Remember how many letters slated Smith and her expenses compared to your "campaign".
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Brown announces £12 billion of cuts today! Wait for the tax hikes now on everyone.
.
Seems the people of Redditch want good services at the right price with low council tax and see some money saved, whoever delivers them.
One thing for sure, Labour can't be trusted to do it now the split is getting even bigger. Labour Cllr Robin King wrote we should pay more Council Tax, and he won't support Redditch Schools getting more money for its pupils in the f40 Fair Funding Campaign.
Anyone for Mr King?
Filo, REDDITCH says...
10:02am Thu 10 Dec 09
Now the council is justified in preserving Redditch services, saving money and trying to keep council Tax down - look at the mess that Brown and Darling are only just starting to admit to (mostly due to Brown's crass incompetance as Chancellor).
What a good job the dedicated and responsible Redditch Councillors took these steps early. Labour can't be trusted to run a train set properly.
My prediction was correct. Now we've got the cut and tax, cut and tax from labour with no hope of reducing the astronomical deficit. Only the old die hards and gullible Labour supporters will be fooled.
Labour are rightly finished before they've got off the blocks, just like Ms Smith.
What a good job the dedicated and responsible Redditch Councillors took these steps early. Labour can't be trusted to run a train set properly.
My prediction was correct. Now we've got the cut and tax, cut and tax from labour with no hope of reducing the astronomical deficit. Only the old die hards and gullible Labour supporters will be fooled.
Labour are rightly finished before they've got off the blocks, just like Ms Smith.
Ronnie's thought, Headless Cross says...
10:12am Fri 11 Dec 09
STOP PRESS
STOP PRESS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Huge splits now from Labour Liars with their "election budget". Alistair Darling angry being controlled by Ed Balls and Gordon Brown - who is running the shambles of a riuned economy? Ali-bah-bah or Crash Gordon? As for Ed Balls, well his name sums him up beautifully!
Insitute of Fiscal Studies prove Labour have got huge funding holes and have not come clean on the 20% cuts they will make to front line public services - even the NHS is not safe.
"Proof Positive" of what a pathetic Chancellor Brown really was - as well as being a control freak and bully.
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Watch for more spin and lies from the Labour losers.
STOP PRESS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Huge splits now from Labour Liars with their "election budget". Alistair Darling angry being controlled by Ed Balls and Gordon Brown - who is running the shambles of a riuned economy? Ali-bah-bah or Crash Gordon? As for Ed Balls, well his name sums him up beautifully!
Insitute of Fiscal Studies prove Labour have got huge funding holes and have not come clean on the 20% cuts they will make to front line public services - even the NHS is not safe.
"Proof Positive" of what a pathetic Chancellor Brown really was - as well as being a control freak and bully.
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Watch for more spin and lies from the Labour losers.
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Councillor Robin King, Redditch says...
3:58pm Wed 18 Nov 09
I cannot reveal the content of this session as it was confidential but the case put by deputy leader Mike Braley in the absence of the his Conservative Council leader was full of apologies and on three occasions words similar to “may not be the ideal package” were present in his fumbling and error riddled statements.
I warn Redditch that once the true facts are known the "mud" will hit the fan.
Honesty to go public with this has never figured in the Tory strategy, because the whole episode is not about savings, not about improved services but about keeping themselves in power. Such is the deceit of the Tory Party, riddled with phoney stunts and media led photo shoots.
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Remember Remembrance Day and the heart-jerking photo of Cameron kneeling at a grave of a war veteran? Here is the disgusting truth behind that picture that papers like the Daily Mail hailed as caring Cameron.
Furious veterans slammed David Cameron yesterday for his “shameful” photo shoot at the Garden of Remembrance.
They were joined in their horror by Franklyn Hood, chairman of the National Service Veteran’s Association who stormed: “He has used this sacred ground like a cheap film set.”
Mr Hood, 73, said the Tory leader’s picture session at the Westminster Abbey memorial on Wednesday was “a calculating stunt and deeply shameful”. He added: “His actions were totally disrespectful to the memory of those who died.”
Once this story appeared in the Mirror the Scottish voters gave their verdict and showed the Tories the door in Glasgow; a terrific victory for Gordon and Labour.
The local electors will also show the Tories the door in Redditch once they are fully aware what is going on behind closed doors.
Watch this space for the future news about the TORY TAX on your waste collection.
God Save Redditch